Monmouth Mall, as I have explained in the MM thread, has great potential to attract upscale stores and with its upcoming expansion, maybe it will start.
Freehold Raceway Mall is poised to attract very upscale stores as it already has many new to market stores and restaurants that have just opened. This will only grow as Quakerbridge Mall will be in direct competition when they complete their expansion if they ever get started.
On Woodbridge Center, Sean, the decor you see today is as a result of the renovation. Prior, there were about three additional fountains, a closed in staircase where the carousel stood before it was moved to the old JCPenney fountain and concrete columns. While there is some orginality left in the design, Woodbridge Center is tired and an updating is very much needed. SEAN February 13th, at am. Wow mallguy, I had no idea that Woodbridge called that a renovation. What did it look like before?
With the econemy the way it is right now it may take longer to complete those projects. Alex February 13th, at pm. There was a segment about the renovation or something like that. It said that alot of stores will be moved, and alot of new stores will be moving in like Hollister Co.
The whole mall should have a renovation in my opinion.. As for Freehold, all they need now is a Gilly Hicks and all of the Abercrombie spinoffs will be in the mall! Jonah Norason February 13th, at pm. Sean: The rebuild of downtown Red Bank took place along Wish there were pics of it.
SEAN February 13th, at pm. Thanks for the info mallguy, Woodbridge must have been one ugly mall at that time with that color pallet. Alex have you ever walked around the Pavonia Newport area? I have-nnumerus times.
That will change slowly over time. I figured i might as well give it all to you Alex; even if i go somewhat overboard. Sean, thank you for your analysis, and yes, I absolutely adore that area. It is just simply stunning. There are just luxury condos popping everywhere. Anyway, Sean your right about Newport Centre mall not really representing the feel of the area, it is definatley not as upscale as it should be…although they just did add a coach store there …. Newport Centre completed a renovation within the year its 1st to make it a little more aesthetically pleasing.
SEAN February 14th, at am. On a nice day i could spend the whole day their, walking around the Newport erea. I think we danced around this , but i wonder if anyone else finds that odd from a retailing standpoint based on what was said earlier. Also notice their are no sitdown restaurants at Newport other than the food court.
At least the FRM expansion added some good ones. SEAN February 14th, at pm. What a shame, they had good pizza. What a pitty, the views are nothing short of breathtaking. Alex February 14th, at pm. Yeah, true about the restaurants.. The area around the mall is very upscale, not just Jersey City, but Hoboken too, which is like a 2 minute drive without traffic. So I think with the correct retailers, this mall could be VERY upscale… All they need is to get rid of Kohls and replace it with a Nordstrom or something, add some restaurants, and a copule more high end shops ie Armani Exchange, Apple, and some designer places , maybe some mid-level retailers like Abercrombie and Hollister, and I actually think that a Ruehl and Gilly Hicks would do well too..
I agree with you alex, but there are 2 problems. Now if the mall goes more upscale AKA Menlo Park now we are talking about something entirely different. You maybe on to something Alex. It will take about a year or more to complete.
When fully built it will strech 18 miles along the Hudson. I ment this section will take a year or more to build. The entire walkway will be 18 miles in length when completed.
Third upgrade or replace the cinema with statium seating in the existing complex or even build a new one. Maybe add some fast service restaurants to replace at least some of the food court…if they didnt do a PF changs then maybe they could have a Pei Wei, maybe Panera, Cosi or Chipotle, along with the Upscale restaurants.
Oh yeah, maybe instead of a PF Changs, they could do a second location for their Taneko Japanese concept. SEAN February 15th, at am. Just for the hell of it i checked the store listings at NC last night. Half of the clothing retailers i have never herd of.
Alex February 15th, at pm. SEAN February 15th, at pm. As a foot note Roseland property company owns most of the residential buildings around the Newport area. They are all expencive rental units, but what an easy walk to either path or NY Waterway, depending on the building you choose.
Sounds interesting…it could definitely do for that area what the redevelopment of Stamford Town Center did for Stamford. The complaints of that mall were that it was separated from the city. Now with the new space at the mall, there is a lot of street access and street activity…very similar to what was done when Providence Place was built.
I was at Freehold today and the new fountain is now operational. It looks like a smaller version of the globe fountain at the Mall at Short Hills with water coming out of the top of the globe and below the globe. The water than falls into a larger basin…very nice design. Love it. Need to let simon know that their property has tremendous potential. Haha I just need to see this renovation actually happen. Alex February 16th, at am. Both fountains at Short Hills are great and I like how sculptures are incorporated into the movement of the water in the fountain.
Another store to soon go vacant at Freehold and its other locations too like Short Hills and Bridgewater Commons : Domain. This is a very large space and hopefully something good JCrew…fingers crossed will go in there. AceJay February 16th, at am. SEAN February 16th, at am. AceJay February 16th, at pm. I dunno, haha. SEAN February 17th, at pm. After seeing what Stamford Town Center did to open the mall outward to the rest of downtown,i am more convinced than ever that something similar needs to be done at Newport Centre.
This configuration requires walking through the malls entire 4th level. What i would do is put those uses together to make it as conveniant as possible. Even if you take public transportation it still is not all that far to walk, so this works out for everyone-no matter what the weather or time of year. AceJay February 18th, at am. Maybe Bahama Breeze.
That would be awesome. Red Parking lots are underground, 1 level, Green is over-ground 1 level, and Blue are normal parking lots. I really want to see this happen. Forgot to mention what I;m going for is to have all the MarketFair stores move to QBM, to be spread throughout the old sections, new wing, and outdoor part. SEAN February 18th, at pm.
Alex February 18th, at pm. Nice work Ace Jay, could work quite nicely. Is there parking under the promanade? Your going to need as many spaces as you can get. That theatre at Marketfair is an old one,are you adding a new one like i want to do at Newport Centre? There is a B Dalltons already open there, so they can copy Menlo Park set up to one extent or another. Maybe Borders would be a better choice there. The pictures of the aesthetic renovations I have seen that have been completed at Newport Centre have also made the mall look a lot nicer and have given it a more upscale feel.
AceJay February 18th, at pm. Also yeah parking underneath the promenade sounds really cool, and would be neat if you could make Subway-styled stairway entrances, haha. The reason i chose to dump Sears was 3 fold. Here is a list of restaurants i would like to bring in, pick your favorites, or add any you think might work. It may look like a diner but the quality of the food is beyond what you would get in most restaurants. SEAN February 19th, at pm. You maybe able to split the difference between the 2 malls.
Like your ideas, your on to something big. Make sure to place parking under the promonade. If this fails you could say good by to sears all together. AceJay February 19th, at pm. Jonah Norason February 19th, at pm. I have actualy been to Marketfair twice, but not for a few years. Also there was little natural sunlight comeing in, making this mall very unpleasant.
When Quakerbridge renovated a few years back, that florescent light was supposed to brighten up the mall mall was pretty dark at night and there was also a crime issue in and around the mall at this time. The center court is actually pretty bright on sunny days. I think the construction and remerchandising will improve the mall tenfold. It will be interesting to see how Marketfair is affected by it.
I am also a fan of Big Fish Bistro. And Sean, I would say that Rockaway Townsquare is a few steps above the socio-economic ladder of Quakerbridge now. I stand corrected, thanks Mallguy for the info on Rockaway. They had to do something to keep the welthier households from going to Bridgewater Commons. Bridgewater Commons has been making an upscale surge of their own.
Forgot how close Short Hills is to that area. Oh how could i forget something as simple as that? Maybe someone on the planning board can lead you in the right direction, or even somebody in the malls management office can help.
SEAN February 20th, at am. Tell them that you have some ideas for the expantion of QBM, and ask those people who can you talk to about incorperating some of the ideas that you brought up here. The worst thing that happens is they say no.
I wish you luck. AceJay February 20th, at pm. SEAN February 20th, at pm. What are you waiting for! I just cant help you with finding someone who does perfessional sight plans though.
SEAN February 21st, at pm. AceJay February 22nd, at am. Very interesting plans, AceJay. Whether you get or way or KravcoSimon does it their way, Quakerbridge will be very successful and end up turning into the Garden State Plaza of Central Jersey…they will definitely force Freehold into further expanding into the upscale market.
Speaking of Freehold, I noticed with the new fountain that the underwater lights constantly change colors. This is pretty cool and reminds me of a time when fountains had multi-colored underwater lights like Quakerbridge used to with the old center court fountain, as well as Altamonte Mall in Florida before its renovation.
If the crowds were any evidence today, this expansion for Freehold Raceway Mall is going to be incedibly helpful for the increase in business and traffic over there. SEAN February 24th, at pm. Based on the same show in LasVegas. A sight for all to enjoy without blowing up your walet. On the new Freehold fountain with the changing lights…that would probably look really cool at night. The fountain show there is actually really cool and gives AC some needed entertainment to make it more on par with Las Vegas.
Here is a YouTube of the show not my video, but very well done whoever did it. Alex February 25th, at pm. There is tons of new construction going on there right now. At least 3, possibly 4 casinos to break ground this year, and with the development of bader feild, another 4 or 5 casinos on top of that could be built.
Revel, a new casino currently under construction next to the Showboat will have tons of shopping about , square feet , and it will be a very cool and edgy urban design. Also, MGM Grand, which will break ground this year and will be located inbetween the Borgata and Harrahs will also have about , square feet of retail. This, for those unfaimliar with AC, should be at Showboat, the New Orleans themed casino I failed to mention the location.
It can be done in the same fashion that Quater Tropicana is done…leading from the parking garage to the main lobby, and even to the boardwalk. The potential for that is limitless! Good to hear about the possibility of new retail at the new casinos in AC. I really like the New Orleans themed shopping area idea. I think that they could really make it nice and pull it off. They actually have a small property that isnt built on yet on the northern border of the property where this could go.
I envision something , square feet to , square feet. Some things that could go into that new retail space are:. The Cheesecake Factory there isnt one in ac yet, which I think is dumb. SEAN February 25th, at pm. This will add alot of activity to the boardwalk there. It will also occupy an under-utilized lot on the boardwalk.
It will be located directly to the south of the Atlantic Palace. For the smaller strips of stores, TShirt shoppes and pizza places, within due time they will probably be baught up by casino developers and will be redeveloped into spectacular retail, entertainment, dining and gambling destinations, but this is all in due time. SEAN February 26th, at am. SEAN February 26th, at pm. Disregard the last link.
Alex February 26th, at pm. Things I would do to upgrade the boardwalk would be to completely deomolish every t-shirt shop, and low end type of building, and sell those peices of land they stood on to casino developers, condo developers and retail or a combination of all 3 developers.
Just for a tropical effect, add some hardy palms to the beach side of the boardwalk. Caldor February 26th, at pm. I actually think while atlantic city should retain it original character, most of its original character has already been butchered.
There used to be grand old hotels that made way for messy Holiday Inns and Econo-Lodges. I dont think that these dumpy places should remain. With all the new development going up in AC, these areas of cheeziness shouldnt ne around anymore. AC is really going in the right direction in what it is doing. AceJay February 26th, at pm. Jonah Norason February 26th, at pm. There are a few reasons for this: One is that people who read all of the daily comments added to Labelscar via RSS are getting almost nothing but a long-irrelevant thread on an old post, making it very difficult to find much of the new, relevant comments on other posts without a significant time investment.
No one new to this site is going to scroll through comments. And i think they should level those old ghettos in atlantic city and build huge places, like luxury residential towers with of course affordable housing units scattered around the building to replace those slums that were destroyed.
Ive seen many houses replaced by parking lots in ac. SEAN February 27th, at am. I can solve the whole thing. Caldor, can you create a page for redevelopment descussions? This way everybody can join in with out having these long threds to deal with. Nobody should be shoved to the margins. Infact Caldor let me have the floor for a moment. It just happend to be on this thred. I am sure others would agree.
Caldor February 27th, at pm. I think Im going to create a page for just that, and it will be linked from the top-right navigation with the sitemap.
AceJay February 27th, at pm. Sounds good. I recall seeing that done on another blog, not sure if it was WP though. SEAN February 27th, at pm. I hope it works, if anyone else has an idea bring it up. Jonah Norason February 27th, at pm. Mike Pugz March 6th, at am.
It was finished back before the holiday season. It sounds very similar to Freehold, down to the color phasing lights and globe flowing into the basin below. Mall looks great, it just isnt the Danbury Fair I have grown up with.
Caldor March 10th, at pm. SEAN March 11th, at am. Josh March 20th, at pm. I suppose the advertisement was really only for Mercer County but I used to hear that advertisement in Southern NJ, having no idea about this place. Now, the mall has its own base, but its interesting to see read its history and how its a real power mall. It was on the radio several years ago, idk if it still is. Max April 6th, at pm. I really dislike this trend towards making malls more upscale.
It greatly strips malls of their variety and also makes middle and lower class shoppers feel unwelcome. Bridgewater Commons is the latest NJ mall to jump on this bandwagon. The mall has already blocked off its cool food court.
In its place will arrive several expensive shops, along with a couple of sit-down dining options. SEAN April 6th, at pm. The best example i can think of is Short Hills vs Newport Center. On Bridgewater Commons, the food court is not being eliminated.
When done, it will mainly be located along the wing where the main entrance is and they are closing in one of the atrium overlooks to allow for more room.
Most shopping centers feel that attracting upscale stores and shoppers is the best route to profit. The affluent populations are the ones that spend the money and if we have looked at economic history, the Nordstroms, Neiman Marcuses and such have always stayed successful, even in challenging economic times, If you look at the successful malls in the Northeast, they have all in their merchandising followed along in this belief.
You may still see growth with other chains, but not as agressively as those two. To follow up my earlier comments on Bridgewater Commons, architectural designs are now shown that exhibit what I said will become of the food corut area. On Freehold, has anyone learned what will occupy the far end of the lifestyle expansion?
Timberland closed and Disney will be moving into the former CVS. SEAN April 13th, at am. Are there seating areas with beastro tables in the area where the old fountain use to be? Also, there are less trees in Freehold than in Danbury.
I do miss the big fountain, but I like the new look. Joey April 21st, at pm. Hollister Co. Guess what? Epic Design is unknown. Citi Casuals is becoming an American Apparel. My favs on Level 2 are.. Crew, Super Foot Locker, and J. SEAN April 22nd, at am. Not a bad lineup. I have a few questions for you.
What about a new AMC theatre to replace the existing Cineplex? Is Sears nessessary? If not what to do with that space since the garage raps around it. If J c Penny has to go instead of Sears, then so be it. Joey April 22nd, at pm. I was thinking of them demolishing and rebuilding the theater and convert it into AMC Newport Convert the JCP building into Nordstrom. Anchored by a , square foot, 3 floor Neiman Marcus and Williams-Sonoma.
Alex April 22nd, at pm. Joey, how do you know this? Im not doubting you but just wondering if there is any solid proof out there supporting what you said. Newport Definatley needs some restaurants. Cheesecake Factory with a street level enterance would be ideal. SEAN April 22nd, at pm. Love it! Just for that reason I went around the Sears store to see what could be done, to my surprise the parking garage raps around Sears. I would assume that the garage also raps the other way towards J C Penny.
There is quite a bit of dead acreage where the parking structure stands, how are you going to fix that? Joey April 23rd, at pm. There will be a parging garage near NM, and a new one for Nordstrom.
They will be tall and sorta like GSP. It will b up soon! SEAN April 23rd, at pm. What i think could fit, are either junior anchors like Dicks Sporting Goods, Best Buy or a beastro row of restaurants.
With all that said there are plenty of oppertunities for future growth, we are well on our way to uncovering them. We should work on Livingston Mall and Woodbridge after this. SEAN April 24th, at am. I think Menlo Park maybe a better option for you. As for Woodbridge Center, oh where to begin. That is just for starters, the entire mall will need an extreme makeover from top to bottom.
According to Wikipedia, they are supposed to get Olive Garden and Bahama Breeze, as well as a renovation, but I have seen nothing new in my last visit about a week ago. Menlo along with Freehold is currently among the best malls in NJ. SEAN April 24th, at pm. Joey April 24th, at pm. Caldor April 24th, at pm. Fortunoff may have gone bankrupt but they are not going anywhere anytime soon.
The Fortunoff brand is definitely not ready to be buried just yet. Totally forgot about the movie theatre. There is definitely room in the back, as well as to expand the parking garage. I also find it interesting a good interesting that Menlo is getting a Work Out World large Central Jersey regional gym chain …it will definitely allow the mall to have activity late on a weekday evening.
I would even love to see the expansion wing include Neiman Marcus, however, they will have to tear down the small office tower on the property and relocate Fox and Hound for that to happen.
Woodbridge has A LOT to work out renovation, deal with the crime issue before they can even think to bring in upscale stores. First, We will restructure Woodbridge.
In center court those weird stairs leading to chairs will be replaced with a new spiral marble staircase similar to Livingston or Menlo. A New fountain in center court.
Get rid of those nasty lights in between the lower and upper level, mostly on the lower level. These are similar to what Freehold and Newport used to have. JCPenney will be fully renovated. Say goodbye to Fortunoff. Jill, J. More L8er! Woodbridge is not an upscale mall by any means. Bringing in top level stores may not atract those customers because those shoppers tend to be at Bridgewater Commons or Menlo Park for the most part. My consept is based on what was done at Stamford Town Center, wich is fantastic.
Should the new theatre at Menlo Park remainin the same location or relocating it in a more desirable spot. Is it a full line store like Willowbrook or fashon only like Bridgewater that you would want to be built there.
I think you would be pleasantly surprised. I would keep the movie theater in the same place, but I would also make it stadium seating and increase it by a few screens.
I would also below the movie theater wish to add Dave and Busters…this would be the 1st NJ location and the Cetral Jersey location would save many from driving to Palisades or Philadelphia. The new Menlo would definitely give Freehold and Bridgewater and if it ever gets done Quaker Bridge a run for their money. Joey what are your thaughts on; 1. Menlo Park 2. Livingston 3. Bridgewater Commons. I would keep Fox and Hound attached to the mall and keep it in the same area but attach it to one of the mall entrances.
With Bridgewater Commons, I think we could see at least 1 or 2 sit down more dining options with the food court renovation near the movie theatre. The Village at Bridgewater Commons should also be exanded and while there may not be enough room, the shops should be built around the current pond which would have to be somewhat drained and made smaller.
AceJay April 25th, at am. SEAN April 25th, at am. Sounds good, is there room for a new theatre complex? Same question, AMC has the 7-screen theatre with no or little compitition in the Bridgewater area. The problem with that is that AMC already has the plex down Quakerbridge Road, highlighted in orange and black.
However by moving the AMC to QBM, the people to the south would still be able to see movies at that one smaller theatre still in operation at the Independence Mall Not a mall, maybe demalled? Now of course since this is a 7-anchor mall, one of the least popular ones may go out of business, though unlikely. IF Sears ends up closing for whatever reason Kmart Execs are thinking of, the theatre can go there. SEAN April 25th, at pm.
There is pressident for a build up like what you discribed at QBM. Aventura mall added a 3rd floor for an AMC screen theatre with aditional restaurants. Besides AMC is a better run theatre company than regal is. Is MarketFair a stadium seating theatre? This has been true for over a decade. On the Village, I am not very impressed and would like to see it reworked somewhat.
Freehold has done a much better job on the lifestyle center and The Grove at Shrewsbury is even better. Something like this was originally planned, but they kept it the way it is because Bloomingdales decided not to locate a home store at Bridgewater. Word is they are trying to attract Cheesecake Factory to the remerchandised dining area. The closest big movie theatre to Bridgewater is in Manville about miles away. On Marketfair, the movie theatre was recently renovated to be stadium seating…about 4 years ago.
Joey April 25th, at pm. Gimme ideas. Give me ideas. Yet again, a new wing. Give them a new Saks, expand the theatre, a new Borders bookstore, new restaurants, give mi ideas. They seriously need more Short Hills-type stores! AceJay April 26th, at am. Jason April 26th, at am. I work at the AMC 24 in Hamilton and from what i can gather…we have absolutely no plans on moving to the Quaker bridge Mall in the expansion.
In fact…we are actually planning to undertake our first major construction in a while and may be converting two of our auditoriums 13 and 14? The Freehold Raceway Mall was expanded in , and construction began in January. The addition included a strip of outdoor stores along the J. Penney side of the mall, occupied by 13 to 15 stores, two restaurants, a promenade, an area for community events and a valet parking station. In April , the mall's first renovation project was underway. The new spherical sculpture fountain and the replacement of the brass rails with wooden rails brought about an end to the renovations in February New additions include single- and two-story retail spaces, and two new parking lots which were built on site to replace those that were lost.
They are located along the Raceway Mall Drive entrance and on the opposite side of the ring road next to Nordstrom. On December 11, it was announced that Sears will be closing at the mall in mid-February [9]. Retrieved January 23, Retrieved July 25, Conroy, William June 9, Asbury Park Press.
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